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are others having problems with the forum return speeds. yesterday i noticed it slowing, and today it is taking 20-25 seconds to return to the main forum from a thread.

the times to go to a thread from main are longer too,


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Michael, have you tried using the active topics view?

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I'm not alone!

Sorry boys, but I've always found this place to be slow..., I just quit bellyaching about it.

Michael, your load speeds are on par with what I always see on the best days. On the bad days, I give up on the joint..., and no, it's not my connection; I can load and skim-read 5-10 threads on the MIMF while waiting for one to load here.Mario38561.6672800926


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I also have found today slower than ussual.


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Same here...


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Yup me too ... this forum as much as I like it has always run sooooo much slower than others that I visit.


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I tweaked a few configuration settings. See if that helped.

That first page is always going to be a little slow.

As many times as I say it... it continues to need repeating.

This forum isn't like the others. The MIMF is a bunch of independant pages. Once they are built they access very fast, but the behind the scenes maintenance is cumbersome. The 13th fret and others are topic level discussions.

This is a database driven system. Part of it relies on the server to retrieve info from the database, part of it depends on your computer to "render" these large complex pages. Sometimes render time far out paces transfer times.

I see the problem too... but what is interesting is that it runs at different speeds depending on what machine I am in front of (sometimes even on the same network).

That is suggesting to me that it is problems rendering the pages. ... And there is no easy solution for this.

I will keep looking....


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Ya know, this is crazy. Im running on a modem, Intel II, and it seems to run faster for me since the fix. Must drive the boys crazy trying to figure this one out!


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my machine hasn't changed, but over the past couple of days the time to recycle back to the main from a thread has gone from the 8-9 second range to to over 20 seconds. being a total computer ignoramous i can't begin to suggest cures, only describe what i am experiencing.


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I haven't noticed any difference in the last week or so. It seems just as fast or slow as ever. From where I sit though it is definately faster than the old forum.

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Brock

I find it varies sometimes slow sometimes fast, I have experienced this on many database applications I have worked on in the past and the explaination in those cases was purely event driven basically the more that is going on the host hardware the slower the system.

Don't know if this is the case on your system, I am sure you know it better than anyone, one soultion we did find was to remove any unrequired system functions, and slow the refresh rates of routing tables etc.

Like I say, I don't know your setup and I am sure you have all of these things worked out anyway.

The one thing I would say is if michael is getting a consitenly slow rate I would say it is not the host system, but something between his system and the host system, unless everyone is getting the same rate. The trouble as I am sure you are aware is there is an aweful lot of system between us and the host.

On your network issue the symptom you describe is typical of an ethernet network, it is a contention based protocol, which means that if two computers on the network try to transmit at the same time they will both excercise a random delay and retransmit their data, so it is not unusual to have differences in speed around a network as the different segments can be busier or quieter.

Ok I will stop talking in martian now, I am suppose to have forgotten all of this, when I gave up real work to make guitars !!!"


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And here I am on the other side of the planet enjoying nice, fast load times. Except yesterday, kept getting timed out msgs.

Mario, could it be that it's not this forum that's slow, maybe it's being routed to you through a slow server somewhere between you and the OLF server? Not that I have a great grasp on how the net is linked together.

Ah, looks like Russell said the same thing while I was answering the doorbell.PaulB38561.7739351852


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brock, what ever you did it seems to be back to its normal degree of slow, about 7-9 seconds return time.crazymanmichael38561.7956365741


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I am kind of stumpped... I have the same experience. Sometimes fast, sometimes slow.

I am trying to isolate it...


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Part of the problem could be simply the number of members online, hitting the server at the same time. Also, it is necessarily slower than MIMF because of all the icons and graphics. BUT I LOVE IT JUST THE WAY IT IS. And I have a dial up connection. DSL isn't available in my area yet.

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